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Entry tags:books, oops! had an opinion

I was browsing through Google Reader and came across this post which seems to be getting a lot of tut-tut's and whine aimed at it for being critical of a book for the content of a character. I have not read Shiver. I don't know if I will. My problem is actually with the response to the review.

This, where points #1 - #4 are basically grudge wank. Are these people for real? This is why critics can't have nice things; people who are just so put out by critics actually having something to say, and people listening, that they have to frame criticism as an attack on an author in an attempt to discredit their issues with a book. I am so sick of people saying, "Ugh, how dare they frame this as a review, it's just a rant!"

As an aside: I am sick of seeing any and all criticism defined as a rant. Do these people realize they are using a derailing tactic, a sexist tactic? No? Check yourself, guys. Rants denote a loss of emotional control used by people attempting to derail and discredit an argument— a critique is not necessarily a rant, and applying that label unless the author provided it themselves: DING DING DING, congratulations on derailing a discussion! Your prize pack of FAIL has arrived!

Anyway, the last time I checked, review could mean a lot of different things when it came to discussing books—I didn't realize only the "nice" people could claim the concept.

I am so tired of the YA Cult of Nice. HONESTLY SICK TO DEATH. The Rejectionist is bashing a book and the author? Women can write misogynistic tripe just as well as any man, because they were raised in a culture of it, and when someone points out, "hey, this seems a little problematic to me, let's unpack why!" and someone else comes along and goes, "You know what, you're just PICKING ON THE AUTHOR AND THE BOOK!" it's maddening. How else do we have these discussions without using examples, of finding the thread and pulling it apart, of examining why one reader feels this way and others don't? Or maybe critics should just shut up and sit down and never use any book as an example of anything problematic, lest they be accused of scapegoating.

I just feel like: the author knew what she was getting into when she decided to put her book out into the world; she doesn't need defending. If she's going to weep big fat tears over that review, if people reading that review actually think that is an attack on an author—! They've got to be joking, that was tame, and meanwhile people are accusing them of personal attacks and not being "professional" (which I find bogus as it is, it's just yet another way people conflate "nice" and "mean", where "mean" is "unprofessional"). Do people understand what an attack is? Honestly? Because the longer I criticize books and the more I read people attempting to discredit people like me, the more I simply thing that the YA world cannot handle criticism unless it is covered in bubble wrap.

This criticism of the YA Cult of Nice, brought to you by frustration and gallons upon gallons of utter contempt for how critics are treated in all corners of the book blogging community.


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[personal profile] imadra_blue
2009-11-13 11:17 pm UTC (link)
Holy shit. See, I had all these rosy ideas that once you got to the published world, you put on your big girl pants and gracefully accepted criticism and moved on with life when you received it.

Apparently, published authors are every inch as immature as their fanfiction writing counterparts. How depressing. *facedesk*

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[personal profile] renay
2009-11-14 12:17 am UTC (link)
I don't even think the author is involved—it's just her fans! I mean, did other rabid fans we won't speak of start out like this? I can't count the times I was told how DARE I attack an author by posting critical thoughts about her books.

*facepalm*

(Actually, the author is pretty creative! This is a video promotion for her book. It had [livejournal.com profile] owlmoose and I in tears.)

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[personal profile] imadra_blue
2009-11-14 01:27 am UTC (link)
I would be so embarrassed if those were my fans. But yeah, fans tend to be hyper-defensive about things in any context. Which is odd, since they construe it as a personal attack on them. If they disagree, why not just post their own glowing, shiny happy fluffy bunnies review?

I do like that promotion, though. It is quite creative, and did make me laugh. :D

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[personal profile] chaosraven
2009-11-13 11:19 pm UTC (link)
The best part is the SUPER hypocritical mention of all the agreement in the comments when, oh look, all 15 comments in TFNC entry are like: omg, ur rite. why r they so meen? HOW CRAZY TO IMAGINE THAT THE PEOPLE FOLLOWING YOUR BLOG MIGHT AGREE WITH YOUR OPINIONS!

Also, 90% of the comments at the Rejectionist were about what trash Twilight is... I think we can do with a few more comments of that nature.

Also, I don't think the Cult of Nice is limited to YA. We get a hell of a lot of it in fandom too. >:/ ALL THAT DOES IS MAKE ME WANT TO BE EXTRA MEAN.

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[personal profile] renay
2009-11-14 12:19 am UTC (link)
NO, DON'T SAY IT. I can't imagine a world in which blog followers might agree with the opinions of the author! IT IS TOO TERRIBLE TO CONTEMPLATE.

(The YA Cult of Nice doesn't have JUSTICE FIGHTERS like you, though, unless I count.)

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[personal profile] chaosraven
2009-11-14 01:41 am UTC (link)
You are totally the YA Justice Fighter captain. You should wear a special hat for it.

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[personal profile] karenhealey
2009-11-14 12:08 am UTC (link)
This is my biggest (and possibly somewhat irrational) fear as I approach my professional publication date - that I won't be *able* to suck it up, accept criticism, acknowledge hurt and apologise when necessary. Or tell my fans, if any, to not defend me against criticism because I am a real grown up lady who can cope with hurt fee fees.

I mean, I've done it before! I'm clearly *capable*. But I see so many fans and authors who I respect suddenly flip out that I'm wondering if there's some sort of awful criticism!fail button that gets pressed on the first negative review.

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[personal profile] renay
2009-11-14 12:32 am UTC (link)
I think the answer (the one I found as I imagine scenarios in which I am not lay and have written and published something) is to stay out of fan disagreements as much as possible, keep it away from your personal playground (like a neutral zone for all your fans!) and have a really, really good support structure around you with a really good grasp of PR. For instance, in about five hours I am going to regret this post, because I didn't let my much more level-headed friends pre-read it and talk me out of taking the YA reviewing community to task by "scapegoating" one set of reviewers.

...being a critic is hard! Also defending feminist critique is too. I want less hard, and more pony, internets. Sigh!

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[personal profile] crabapplered
2009-11-14 06:46 am UTC (link)
You know, I've always figured that the whole backlash against critics was half "Shoot the messenger" and half "Don't talk politics at the dinner table!"

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[personal profile] renay
2009-11-14 06:51 am UTC (link)
That is an excellent way to frame it.

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[personal profile] blackswan
2009-11-14 09:12 pm UTC (link)
The worst thing I hate, is when people say "oh you're just being critical because you're envious. You're jealous you couldn't publish/sing/draw like that, so you're being mean."

No. No. Fuck no. You don't have to have a nose to know that shit stinks.

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